To recap, Vince Young continues to be overrated for no apparent reason, Eli snuck up in the top 10 despite only playing well for 4 games all season -- albeit the most important ones. Jay Cutler is somehow rated below Vince Young... which is kind of ridiculous. And somehow Garrard has only 76 awareness, yet Anderson has 79... Anderson threw near the most INTs in the league, meanwhile Garrard did nothing but have one of the most efficient seasons at the QB position in modern history... go figure.
del1ght is an absolute super nerd, and for some reason... really, really pisses me off. every time i come to these threads he's also talking about taylor or garrard, and always whining. they are both mediocre at best players... at best. not to mention garrard had a LOT more to work with then derek anderson, so stafoo thanks.
and sorry smooth4evr, but i've never seen a troll quite like you. ALWAYS posting something completely worthless. even though del1ght's opinions suck, at least it brings on debate, or someting... while you on the other hand... well... just ask your parents.
I'm a Jets fan first (born in NY) and a Panthers fan second (lived in NC for 17 years) and uh....no Jet or Panther qb in the top 20. this suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks lol.
I guess i gotta start a franchise w/ Kellen Clemens and do work son
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The reason why I continue to talk about Taylor, is because people like you (no offense), continue to have this incredibly ignorant opinion about him (ignorance as in, without full knowledge). Taylor will finish his career behind only Jim Brown and Barry Sanders in yards per carry among top-10 rushers (which making it into that class is a feat in itself).
he's also one of the greatest big-play backs of all time, with only Barry Sanders and a select few other all-time greats with more plays of 10+, 20+ yards etc...
And saying Garrard has a lot more to work with, when Anderson has Kellen Winslow, Braylon Edwards and now Donte Stallworth is just wrong. Garrard has a better team, but so does Peyton Manning compared to the browns. Let's not call a guy mediocre for having one of the most efficient QBing seasons in recent history, and posting a 100+ QB rating on the year at about 1.6 TDs per game (Anderson had 1.8 TDs per game). The guy threw on average 3 less passes per game than Derek Anderson, and had a higher yards per attempt than him. Dunno if he'll do it all again, but he certainly played fantastic last year. If he didn't miss 3.75 games with an injury, and didn't sit the final week and a half of the season with the playoffs clinched, his final numbers would be much more attractive. Break it down over the games he played though, and you're looking at top-flight per-game averages.
Also, here's another reality check on Fred Taylor.
Fred Taylor averages 1350 yards every 16 games in his 10-year career. He also has more yards than LT on less carries in his career (which is a neat stat that will probably be abolished next season). In fact, when LT was asked who the best RB in the league is outside of himself, his first response was Fred Taylor. Jim Brown also considers Taylor one of the best RBs in the league. OJ Simpson as well. But somehow your opinion that he's mediocre outweighs all.
and any highlight video of taylor in itself is enough.
also, i'm only bringing this garrard stuff up because there was a big debate months ago about Derek Anderson and David Garrard.
Really no big surprises other than maybe Carson Palmer being a couple notches higher than where he'll probably play this year and of course Eli Manning getting the extra bump from the Superbowl victory. McNabb could also have easily slipped behind Hasselbeck but really we're just splitting hairs at that point. Good overall ratings
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Peyton is a long way from washed up, he was simply hurt all preseason so the offense doesn't have its kinks worked out, and losing Jeff Saturday really shows as Peyton is taking a lot more pressure this year than he has in the past.
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09 QB Ratings (Released)
http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1603/m..
Or, check them out in order below.
1. Tom Brady (99)
2. Peyton Manning (99)
3. Carson Palmer (96)
4. Ben Roethlisberger (95)
5. Drew Brees (94)
6. Tony Romo (94)
7. Eli Manning (93) -- superbowl = madden hands out stats
8. David Garrard (92)
9. Donovin McNabb (92)
10. Matt Hasselbeck (91)
11. Phillip Rivers (90)
12. Marc Bulger / Jeff Garcia (89)
13. Vince Young (88)
14. Derek Anderson (88)
15. Jay Cutler (86) -- should be higher than VY and DA
16. Matt Leinart (85)
17. Jake Delhomme (85)
18. Matt Schaub (84)
19. Jon Kitna (84)
20. Rodgers / Campbell (83)
21-32 = irrelevent
Also, I feel the need to point out a quote I made in a previous thread. http://dpad.gotfrag.com/madden/forums/thr..
I was right on every account except for Favre, who retired, and Cutler, who I specified might be on the fence (although I think he's a better QB).
I want some kind of award.
good day sir.
also, i don't know what you're talking about.
and sorry smooth4evr, but i've never seen a troll quite like you. ALWAYS posting something completely worthless. even though del1ght's opinions suck, at least it brings on debate, or someting... while you on the other hand... well... just ask your parents.
I'm a Jets fan first (born in NY) and a Panthers fan second (lived in NC for 17 years) and uh....no Jet or Panther qb in the top 20. this suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks lol.
I guess i gotta start a franchise w/ Kellen Clemens and do work son
he's also one of the greatest big-play backs of all time, with only Barry Sanders and a select few other all-time greats with more plays of 10+, 20+ yards etc...
And saying Garrard has a lot more to work with, when Anderson has Kellen Winslow, Braylon Edwards and now Donte Stallworth is just wrong. Garrard has a better team, but so does Peyton Manning compared to the browns. Let's not call a guy mediocre for having one of the most efficient QBing seasons in recent history, and posting a 100+ QB rating on the year at about 1.6 TDs per game (Anderson had 1.8 TDs per game). The guy threw on average 3 less passes per game than Derek Anderson, and had a higher yards per attempt than him. Dunno if he'll do it all again, but he certainly played fantastic last year. If he didn't miss 3.75 games with an injury, and didn't sit the final week and a half of the season with the playoffs clinched, his final numbers would be much more attractive. Break it down over the games he played though, and you're looking at top-flight per-game averages.
Also, here's another reality check on Fred Taylor.
Fred Taylor averages 1350 yards every 16 games in his 10-year career. He also has more yards than LT on less carries in his career (which is a neat stat that will probably be abolished next season). In fact, when LT was asked who the best RB in the league is outside of himself, his first response was Fred Taylor. Jim Brown also considers Taylor one of the best RBs in the league. OJ Simpson as well. But somehow your opinion that he's mediocre outweighs all.
and any highlight video of taylor in itself is enough.
also, i'm only bringing this garrard stuff up because there was a big debate months ago about Derek Anderson and David Garrard.
and #7 anderson had winslow, braylon...i can't even name a WR on the jags except for wilford...and that's only because he went to va tech
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